"tep farther. we all want everybody to have good health care. i understand that. but a couple of things. you know, when we reach 7 million or 8 million and we do not know how many paid, but he is the government's number, i guess what I am always surprised about is, is why do we look at -- there is a penalty for not signing up. you know, when i pay a toll, mr. secretary, ido does not give me a thank yo" . . . .