. >> i think that is normal. beare not in normal times. >> senator coburn says the pentagon needs to stop being what he calls department of everything. he says the savings would not be huge. $6 billion a year but there was a time when it was real money. chris? >> chris: there was a time, wendell. thank you. reporting from the white house. stocks were down again today, the dow lost 28.5. the s&p 500