Go read some of jpinard's early posts, you will see it.Rage hates them because he thinks Tom Chick is smug.ATB had some bizarre run-in with Tom he is just going to confirm Rage's belief that Tom is smug.I think the rest of us are either neutral or actually like them.Why do you have to be the only person in forum existence that still calls me by a handle I last used...2 years or more ago?