lied about what? this is something he is been saying all along. this is what he believes. this is his palsy, this is his statements. it is sort of like someone that, you know, in the sandbox that lost the game and they are going to kick sand in someone's face and say, you liar. they lost and now they are just going to say, okay, we didn't like the game. so -- to me it is poor sportsmanship. martha: i