i have since went from the CLAS to the ibasso db2 Dac with dual wolfson dac chips along with 24/192 capability...im now using the Iriver ihp-140 which IMO is a Gem, ALSO love the 2 paired together with a sys-concept custom fiber optic cable all cables paired with toxic silver posion....all balanced input and output.....the w4r SING and they SING phenomenally... personally i dont think i am going t