Hall & Oates and Asia and Alan Parsons Project, would not have fit into the 80s AOR mainstream, because it is a wilfully defective version) never quite got with Amon Tobin's stuff, seemed to be of the same milieu-mindset/era as FSOL and the later Coldcut, plus various IDM-ers who picked up on aspects of e.g. Parallel Universe while losing the thing that kept it, in essence, jungle still.