I will have to punt to someone who has done bayway recently on the best way through that. -sandor yeah the detour is an issue, as it is kinda hectic going over holly overpass and getting squashed by an SUV is a high price to pay for the record. there is also quite a bit of traffic in general on the detour. we could try for the as-yet unset bayway while the water main is being replaced in redwood ci