Before i tried many values of Ambient Occlusion Scalers" and I noticed that it is only change the color of the horizont, but do not remeber in which direction, however all prametres and colors in timecyc. dat influence each other, if you change something then must change and other things, maybe we need some better tool than EditIV (btw this's the great tool ).Wish you good luck PacketOVerload_x