Ultimately, the refinery on the East Coast has a choice of the CD barrels by rail that are competing against water borne barrels by the various originations and what we have experienced historically at that point is sort of a Brent, flat or straight upside or Brent plus 1, Brent plus 2 or minus 1 in that ballpark, the refinery is always going to be weighing his or her options of water borne versus