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  • We had a book called 'Ways Of World-Making' by Nelson Goodman, and this could have been one the most important stimuli for us both, (along with getting high, listening to music, reading Ballard and Dick, watching Tarkovsky, Jarman and other filmmakers our fresh minds had been ignorant of), and remains central to what we both still do, the idea that art is not a copy of the world but world-making.
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