Reply TrevorML says: October 31, 2011 at 4:08 AM one of the greatest mistakes people make??? seeing Zen as Zen Buddhism??? Zen is Zen??? Buddhism is Buddhism (with its many variants)??? Zen in its essence has no interest in niceties, politeness, or good (western) manners??? it is about the moment whether that is joy or anger??? the mundane and ordinary is a vital part of Zen??? and with this comes