forgiveness given prior to the cross.I therefore do not think that Scripture leaves any aperture to consider anything other than forgiveness only through the substitutionary death of Christ.Hope I am coherent there!Steve Nicole_7281 Amen <a href="http://twitter.com/SteveUtley">http://twitter.com/SteveUtley</a> Steve Utley That lost all my paragraphing sorry! <a href="http://airo-cross.blogspot.com">http://airo-cross.blogspot.com</a> Justin Edwards For the life of the flesh is in the b