| http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#value | - group and we might want to reach out to more people, especially labor, that kind of thing. so he is just to give you a sense of he is how those meetings go. i would agree, we need to try to have them -- even though this might be a strain on staff we need to have them go longer because there is so much technical stuff to plow through that we really need to get a handle on this, especially now tha
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