| http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#value | - The ecclesiocentric is a debate looser because it as soon as it is mentioned that ???They may not like it, but it???s the teaching of the Church that marriage is between one man and one woman,??? the debate is lost because it has been so drummed into people???s heads, including Catholics, that a ???church??? is a human institution and all human institutions are 1.) democratic 2.) need to progress
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