| http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#value | - A Christian reply can be that they are both literal first borns, as the Messiah really is an Israel, a true, spiritual Israel.By the way, there are plenty of ways that the Talmud speaks in ways that do sound like affirmations of Christian ideas, which is what you are getting at:http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/messiah/messiah.htm#Messiah%20would%20be%20the%20Son%20of%20God
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