| http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#value | - We would meet at at conferences, mostly OOPSLA or PLoP. It continued through the patterns thing into working on the organization of OOPSLA - John and I were both part of the conference committee in 2001, when I chaired OOPSLA 2003 he was chair apparent, learning the workings of the conference from the inside (and perhaps more importantly, learning what not to do from my mistakes) to chair the very
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