| http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#value | - elieve that the pre-trib position is clearly taught by the new testament and that types of the rapture are in the old testament too, you say that the church will be refined in the tribulation, is this to say then the church is not being refined already? look at china, we in the west are the ones who are asleep and for the most part and need to wake up an realise Jesus is comin get busy.I believe t
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