| http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#value | - great thoughts! i also think the suicide conversation needs to be had in the church. we can not look down on people for not knowing how to deal with it, especially because many were taught (like me) that suicide is an automatic ticket to hell. i feel that many times we want the church culture to just be different rather than realizing we have to first undo what was done (or in many cases taught), an
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